if you look at debt, much higher than many countries in the euro zone, including spain, germany, france. yet, the united states of america is able to borrow at the lowest rate in pretty much its whole recorded history. so you have a very, very diverse landscape at the moment, but certainly one that could be significantly improved, or worsened by the situation that we have concerning the fiscal cliff, the fiscal deficit and the debt of the country, which are three topics that can be addressed now on the comprehensive and efficient fashion. >> in the fiscal cliff negotiation. so what should this mean? because i think i could interpret any given number to say, oh, that means we shouldn't touch taxes for the upper brackets because the economy still needs as much money as it can have in it. or i could argue, oh, this means that we need more stimulus to keep the jobs going, or i could look at the debt and say, oh, this means we need to cut spending. so what does it mean? so what would you, and what globally, what would mean the most for the u.s. to do in terms of the global economy? >> you kn